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Archive for February, 2008

Episode 50 — Knowing God’s Will, Part 1

Series: Knowing God’s Will

This week Randy Johovich, Don Maurer, and Marlin Klingensmith begin a discussion of God’s will. They discuss God’s secret decretive will (His will that He has decreed), and God’s revealed preceptive will (His will revealed in His precepts).

Running time: 52:00

Click here for 50: Knowing God’s Will, part 1

Program notes: The following are quoted in this discussion.

Romans 12:1-2

1 Therefore, I urge you, brothers, in view of God’s mercy, to offer your bodies as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God—this is your spiritual act of worship. 2 Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will.

The Lord has a Will — Amy Grant

The Lord has a will,
and I have a need,
to follow that will,
to humbly be still,
to rest in it, nest in it, fully be blest in it,
following my Father’s will.

Deuteronomy 29:29

The secret things belong to the LORD our God, but the things that are revealed belong to us and to our children forever, that we may do all the words of this law.

James 4:13-15

13 Come now, you who say, “Today or tomorrow we will go into such and such a town and spend a year there and trade and make a profit”– 14 yet you do not know what tomorrow will bring. What is your life? For you are a mist that appears for a little time and then vanishes. 15 Instead you ought to say, “If the Lord wills, we will live and do this or that.” 16 As it is, you boast in your arrogance. All such boasting is evil.

1 Thessalonians 4:1-8

1 Finally, then, brothers, we ask and urge you in the Lord Jesus, that as you received from us how you ought to walk and to please God, just as you are doing, that you do so more and more. 2 For you know what instructions we gave you through the Lord Jesus. 3 For this is the will of God, your sanctification: that you abstain from sexual immorality; 4 that each one of you know how to control his own body in holiness and honor, 5 not in the passion of lust like the Gentiles who do not know God; 6 that no one transgress and wrong his brother in this matter, because the Lord is an avenger in all these things, as we told you beforehand and solemnly warned you. 7 For God has not called us for impurity, but in holiness. 8 Therefore whoever disregards this, disregards not man but God, who gives his Holy Spirit to you.

Psalm 119:105

Your word is a lamp to my feet and a light to my path.

1 Thessalonians 5:16-18

16 Rejoice always, 17 pray without ceasing, 18 give thanks in all circumstances; for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you.

Matthew 6:33

But seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added to you.

1 Corinthians 10:31

So, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God.

John Newton

In general, [God] guides and directs his people, by affording them in answer to prayer, the light of his Holy Spirit, which enables them to understand and to love the Scriptures. The word of God… is to furnish us with just principles, right apprehensions to regulate our judgments and affections, and thereby influence and direct our conduct.

Episode 49 — Westminster Confession of Faith, Chapter 3: Of God’s Eternal Decree, Sections 5 – 8

Series: Westminster Confession of Faith

This week Randy Johovich, Don Maurer, and Marlin Klingensmith complete a discussion of chapter 3 of the Westminster Confession of Faith. They discuss sections 5 through 8 of the chapter: Of God’s Eternal Decree.

Running time: 44:36

Click here for 49: Westminster Confession of Faith, Chapter 3: Of God’s Eternal Decree, Sections 5 through 8

Program notes: The following are quoted in this discussion.

Westminster Confession of Faith

Chapter 3: Of God’s Eternal Decree

Section 5. Those of mankind that are predestinated unto life, God, before the foundation of the world was laid, according to His eternal and immutable purpose, and the secret counsel and good pleasure of His will, has chosen, in Christ, unto everlasting glory, out of His mere free grace and love, without any foresight of faith, or good works, or perseverance in either of them, or any other thing in the creature, as conditions, or causes moving Him thereunto; and all to the praise of His glorious grace.

Psalm 33:11

The counsel of the LORD stands forever,
the plans of his heart to all generations.

2 Timothy 2:19

But God’s firm foundation stands, bearing this seal: “The Lord knows those who are his,”….

Ephesians 1:3-4

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, 4 even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love….

Revelation 13:8

…and all who dwell on earth will worship it, everyone whose name has not been written before the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who was slain.

Romans 3:21

But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law….

Westminster Confession of Faith

Chapter 3: Of God’s Eternal Decree

Section 6. As God has appointed the elect unto glory, so has He, by the eternal and most free purpose of His will, foreordained all the means thereunto. Wherefore, they who are elected, being fallen in Adam, are redeemed by Christ, are effectually called unto faith in Christ by His Spirit working in due season, are justified, adopted, sanctified, and kept by His power, through faith, unto salvation. Neither are any other redeemed by Christ, effectually called, justified, adopted, sanctified, and saved, but the elect only.

Romans 10:17

So faith comes from hearing, and hearing through the word of Christ.

Westminster Confession of Faith

Chapter 3: Of God’s Eternal Decree

Section 7. The rest of mankind God was pleased, according to the unsearchable counsel of His own will, whereby He extends or withholds mercy, as He pleases, for the glory of His sovereign power over His creatures, to pass by; and to ordain them to dishonor and wrath for their sin, to the praise of His glorious justice.

Westminster Confession of Faith

Chapter 3: Of God’s Eternal Decree

Section 8. The doctrine of this high mystery of predestination is to be handled with special prudence and care, that men, attending the will of God revealed in His Word, and yielding obedience thereunto, may, from the certainty of their effectual vocation, be assured of their eternal election. So shall this doctrine afford matter of praise, reverence, and admiration of God; and of humility, diligence, and abundant consolation to all that sincerely obey the Gospel.

Matthew 7:6 (NKJV)

Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine….

John Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion, Book 3, Chapter 21

Human curiosity renders the discussion of predestination, already somewhat difficult of itself, very confusing and even dangerous. No restraints can hold it back from wandering in forbidden bypaths and thrusting upward to the heights. If allowed, it will leave no secret to God that it will not search out and unravel. Since we see so many on all sides rushing into this audacity and impudence, among them certain men not otherwise bad, they should in due season be reminded of the measure of their duty in this regard.

First, then, let them remember that when they inquire into predestination they are penetrating the sacred precincts of divine wisdom. If anyone with carefree assurance breaks into this place, he will not succeed in satisfying his curiosity and he will enter a labyrinth from which he can find no exit. For it is not right for man unrestrainedly to search out things that the Lord has willed to be hid in himself, and to unfold from eternity itself the sublimest wisdom, which he would have us revere but not understand that through this also he should fill us with wonder. He has set forth by his Word the secrets of his will that he has decided to reveal to us. These he decided to reveal in so far as he foresaw that they would concern us and benefit us.

… For we shall know that the moment we exceed the bounds of the Word, our course is outside the pathway and in darkness, and that there we must repeatedly wander, slip, and stumble. Let this, therefore, first of all be before our eyes: to seek any other knowledge of predestination than what the Word of God discloses is not less insane than if one should purpose to walk in a pathless waste [cf. Job 12:24], or to see in darkness. And let us not be ashamed to be ignorant of something in this matter, wherein there is a certain learned ignorance. Rather, let us willingly refrain from inquiring into a kind of knowledge, the ardent desire for which is both foolish and dangerous, nay, even deadly. But if a wanton curiosity agitates us, we shall always do well to oppose to it this restraining thought: just as too much honey is not good, so for the curious the investigation of glory is not turned into glory [Proverbs 25:27, cf. Vg.]. For there is good reason for us to be deterred from this insolence which can only plunge us into ruin.

Ephesians 2:8-10

8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.

Ephesians 1:11-12

11 In him we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to the purpose of him who works all things according to the counsel of his will, 12 so that we who were the first to hope in Christ might be to the praise of his glory.

Numbers 23:19

God is not man, that he should lie,
or a son of man, that he should change his mind.
Has he said, and will he not do it?
Or has he spoken, and will he not fulfill it?

2 Timothy 2:19

But God’s firm foundation stands, bearing this seal: “The Lord knows those who are his,” and, “Let everyone who names the name of the Lord depart from iniquity.”

1 Thessalonians 3:3

…that no one be moved by these afflictions. For you yourselves know that we are destined for this.

Genesis 50:20

As for you, you meant evil against me, but God meant it for good, to bring it about that many people should be kept alive, as they are today.

1 Samuel 23:14

And David remained in the strongholds in the wilderness, in the hill country of the wilderness of Ziph. And Saul sought him every day, but God did not give him into his hand.

Philippians 2:27

Indeed [Epaphroditus] was ill, near to death. But God had mercy on him….

Acts 13:29-30

29 And when they had carried out all that was written of him, they took him down from the tree and laid him in a tomb. 30 But God raised him from the dead….

Ephesians 2:1,4-5

1 And you were dead in the trespasses and sins…. 4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, 5 even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ….

John 6:37

All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out.

Episode 48 — Westminster Confession of Faith, Chapter 3: Of God’s Eternal Decree, Sections 3 and 4

Series: Westminster Confession of Faith

This week Randy Johovich, Don Maurer, and Marlin Klingensmith continue a discussion of chapter 3 of the Westminster Confession of Faith. They discuss sections 3 and 4 of the chapter: Of God’s Eternal Decree. These sections deal with double predestination, as God elects some and passes by others.

Running time: 36:14

Click here for 48: Westminster Confession of Faith, Chapter 3: Of God’s Eternal Decree, Sections 3 and 4

Program notes: The following are quoted in this discussion.

Westminster Confession of Faith

Chapter 3: Of God’s Eternal Decree

Section 3. By the decree of God, for the manifestation of His glory, some men and angels are predestinated unto everlasting life; and others foreordained to everlasting death.

Section 4. These angels and men, thus predestinated, and foreordained, are particularly and unchangeably designed, and their number so certain and definite, that it cannot be either increased or diminished.

John Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion, Book 3, Chapter 21.

Human curiosity renders the discussion of predestination, already
somewhat difficult of itself, very confusing and even dangerous. No
restraints can hold it back from wandering in forbidden bypaths and
thrusting upward to the heights. If allowed, it will leave no secret to
God that it will not search out and unravel. Since we see so many on all
sides rushing into this audacity and impudence, among them certain men
not otherwise bad, they should in due season be reminded of the
measure of their duty in this regard.

First, then, let them remember that when they inquire into
predestination they are penetrating the sacred precincts of divine
wisdom. If anyone with carefree assurance breaks into this place, he
will not succeed in satisfying his curiosity and he will enter a
labyrinth from which he can find no exit. For it is not right for man
unrestrainedly to search out things that the Lord has willed to be hid
in himself, and to unfold from eternity itself the sublimest wisdom,
which he would have us revere but not understand that through this also
he should fill us with wonder. He has set forth by his Word the secrets
of his will that he has decided to reveal to us. These he decided to
reveal in so far as he foresaw that they would concern us and benefit us.

…For we shall know that the moment we exceed the bounds of the Word,
our course is outside the pathway and in darkness, and that there we
must repeatedly wander, slip, and stumble. Let this, therefore, first of
all be before our eyes: to seek any other knowledge of predestination
than what the Word of God discloses is not less insane than if one
should purpose to walk in a pathless waste [cf. Job 12:24], or to see in
darkness. And let us not be ashamed to be ignorant of something in this
matter, wherein there is a certain learned ignorance. Rather, let us
willingly refrain from inquiring into a kind of knowledge, the ardent
desire for which is both foolish and dangerous, nay, even deadly. But if
a wanton curiosity agitates us, we shall always do well to oppose to it
this restraining thought: just as too much honey is not good, so for the
curious the investigation of glory is not turned into glory [Proverbs
25:27, cf. Vg.]. For there is good reason for us to be deterred from
this insolence which can only plunge us into ruin.

Episode 47 — Westminster Confession of Faith, Chapter 3: Of God’s Eternal Decree, Section 2

Westminster Confession of Faith

This week Randy Johovich, Don Maurer, and Marlin Klingensmith continue a discussion of chapter 3 of the Westminster Confession of Faith. They discuss section 2 of the chapter: Of God’s Eternal Decree. This section deals with how God’s does not decree what will happen based on looking into the future and seeing that the event will occur.

Running time: 32:03

Click here for 47: Westminster Confession of Faith, Chapter 3: Of God’s Eternal Decree, Section 2

Program notes: The following are quoted in this discussion.

Westminster Confession of Faith

Chapter 3: Of God’s Eternal Decree, Section 2

Although God knows whatsoever may or can come to pass upon all supposed conditions; yet has He not decreed anything because He foresaw it as future, or as that which would come to pass upon such conditions.

Romans 8:29

For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son….

Genesis 4:1

Now Adam knew Eve his wife, and she conceived and bore Cain….

Amos 3:1-2

1 Hear this word that the LORD has spoken against you, O people of Israel, against the whole family that I brought up out of the land of Egypt: 2 “You only have I known of all the families of the earth; therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities.